Athlete Injury Prevention with Master Coach Clance Laylor and John Nardi

Chapter Overview:

0:00 – Introduction
1:04 – What is causing these common injuries in sports?
5:15 – Why train to full range of motion?
6:19 – What should the medical community do to address this issue?
8:17 – What are some inappropriate training methods?
10:21 – What is the importance of the muscles working in unison?
12:31 – What are the cons of using a stability ball?
14:15 – How Master Coach Clance collects data?
16:09 – What advise Master Coach Clance can give to parents of athletes?
18:14 – What is the most detrimental cue in squats?
25:41 – What are some other issues that Master Coach Clance want to address?
26:30 – Why overtraining is not the issue?
27:59 – What other injury-prevention methods that are being neglected?
30:00 – How do strength training movements/techniques transfer into the field?
31:31 – Should there be a revolving door between strength community and medical community?
35:08 – Why training to the full range of motion is an important principle at LPS?

John: It’s good to sit down with you again.

Last time we talked about Biological Leg Springs and injuries and problems in the world of team sports and individual sports.

Since we last talked, there been some new developments. Of course, we have the data from last year coming out that in the 2020 NFL preseason, there were 11 ACL tears before the season even started, and 16 MCL tears. You’ve seen it in baseball. I’m seeing it in basketball as well.

One of the more prominent figures in sports, LeBron James came out and you sent me the tweet saying that he was blaming it on no rest, shortened off-seasons. This is a guy on load management. I remember watching old YouTube games of Michael Jordan at year 39 playing 82 games with the Washington wizards and he was effective. So prominent figures in sports are blaming us on load management or a lack of load management. What is it actually?

Clance: Okay. I’m not saying load management might not be some sort of an issue, you know, human body gets tired, fatigue, things happen, but the root of the problem is definitely not load problem. The root of the problem is training, training methods that these athletes are using. And what these current training methods or popular training methods are doing is basically tightening, rotting mummifying ligaments, tendons, fascia of the joints, specifically ankle knees, hips, which are responsible for Achilles tendons rupture, which is the strongest tendon in the human body. And almost impossible to rupture, which is rupturing at epidemic paces.

That is an old man injury. That’s what we call weekend warrior injury, four year old working all week and go play basketball or tennis with their buddies on the weekend, and then ruptured Achilles. That doesn’t happen to, you know, superstar athletes, healthy young athletes.

That’s the problem. We are, the athletes are not utilizing training methods to nurture these what we call Biological Leg Springs, right? Nurture this the spring components, elastic components. You have to think of it as elasticity. And you have to, as a strength coach, as a personal trainer or performance or whatever, the name these guys call themselves nowadays, or a female, is once you work from that principal, you have to do a better job for you. So that to answer LeBron James, it’s not load management, it’s actually, and the biggest problem is it’s never directly correlated because it’s like a toothache or it’s like what do you call it? When you have a tooth…

John: Root canal.

Clance: It’s like a, like a cavity, right? It happens slowly, slowly. You know, these guys or girls, they start training from high school, or even before pre high school year after year, sorry, you know, week after week, month after month, year after year, the short range of motion exercises, these loading in with short range of motion exercises, which is basically shortening these springs, getting them strong in a certain area, but forgetting the rest of the spring.

John: Right.

Clance: That is I’m trying to kind of make it simple. And so, you know, everyone can understand that is the problem. If you do not utilize the full range of motion of a spring, and you look at a young child when, so just see them sitting down there, they, you know, or even some cultures, they can squat, deep squat, no problem.

John: Bare feet.

Clance: Bare feet, knees over the toes, ankle joint, fully dorsiflex. You have the knees touching the hamstring, calves sitting in a full squat, no problem. No. So once you start getting away from that and loading half, you know what we call shortened, shortened ranges of motion, that’s where we run into a lot of problems.

I’m sorry for the long, the long answer, but that in a nutshell is a problem. And that’s why for us, our athletes, I don’t care what sport you do, our athletes must train to full range of motion.

And one of the common things is why do we have to do, why do we have to train in to full range of motion? Oh my sport doesn’t require it. I don’t care for your sport doesn’t require it because not only is it going to actually enhance your performance, but it’s also going to be an injury prevention mechanism, healthier joints, right? For those black, what we call black swan moments where you least expected where you will end up on the ground.

And let me just be clear, like if you cannot fall, like, right. No, let me repeat that. If you cannot bend-

John: Can’t fall.

Clance: You can’t fall. If you cannot bend, you can’t fall. Take it from me. I know firsthand.

John: Yeah. So you and I know there’s a problem. The NFL now knows it’s a problem. I assume owners are again, quite short and quite angry with the fact that their players aren’t on the field, as long as they believe they can be. So the NFL this year just put 4 million dollars into medical research for, I guess, trying to get to the bottom of what this epidemic is. Now they gave that money to the medical field to examine what’s going on. What would you rather they do to address the issue?

Clance: That’s a very good question. That’s a difficult question.

John: Yeah. Take your time.

Clance: But the simple question is just give that money to me, but you know, the problem with that is that the medical community doesn’t really understand strength and conditioning.

Alright. And the problem is a lot of the therapeutic community, you know, rehab community doesn’t understand strength and conditioning. So that is a problem.

Like for me, my gym is a lab. I’ve been studying, researching this, and I have some suggestions actually, who could, who they can give that money to. But you know, I’ve been studying this for a long time because I’ve seen the rise in injuries and so on and so forth and understanding that this is a problem, major problem. And if you don’t train athletes, if you don’t really understand the loading and unloading explosively to full range motion, how to train, you know, explosive power and things like that, the medical community is going to have a little problem trying to understand it.

Cause right now they throw all this technology and so forth and so and whatever, and it’s not helping. And so that’s a tough one, but I think if they kind of have to take a good look at like, you know, where athletes are coming from, how athletes are being produced, what rate of injuries are, are these athletes coming from this certain area, this training center, or a gym or a performance center, like what’s going on there. And then they can kind of say, okay, maybe this is, what are you doing? Like what are you doing? How come you’re at these don’t receive these injuries.

So maybe that’s a better way instead of just giving it to the research community or medical community. And a lot of times, the problem I have with that is that they have alternative motives to come out with some type of product, some type of drugs, some type of this and that as to make money off of it when the problem is, and I’m not telling you, I believe I know what the problem is is inappropriate training methods and the whole balance training community, the whole stability training community and the whole, you know, core training community, you know, not only that, but also the mummifying and taping, wrapping the joints is a problem.

Major problem. You know, I’m not saying, yeah, if you have a little strain, it’s okay to drop a joint. But that joint, when you wrap it is like a fashion statement. Nowadays, these football players, they come out, all wrapped, looked like mummies, but what you’re doing to that joint is you are mummifying the joint because, and then you’re disrupting the communication.

So your communications within that joint, you’re limiting the range of motion of that joint. And that is a big, big problem. You’re basically creating what we call “lean your robots”.

John: No, that makes a lot of sense. I didn’t actually plan to talk about this at all, but you brought up a good point. And I remember from personal experience, my first nationals I was getting ready and my wrist was bothering me and I couldn’t, I couldn’t snatch for the longest time, right? And I remember wrapping it, wrapping it with multiple layers of tape and that had fixed the problem. I was able to compete. And then I got into a habit where I needed that tape. And then a month after on that same, that same side, I hurt my shoulder. I’m convinced to this day, it’s because of that. I never took that off. So that, that goes for me, I can register that. What you’re saying with personal experience there.

Clance: Yeah. Cause what happens is your body has a natural, your body’s smart. The thing is we think we know our body well, we don’t know the body. The body is, the body is an amazing machine, which will adapt to anything. So if you are taking the work from somewhere else, somewhere else is going to overcompensate you. So when you’re wrapping the joint, you’re taking the work from those ligaments, tendons, tissues, cellular mechanisms to do its job, and it’s going to pass it off somewhere else. And you’re disrupting the communication all there. It’s so complicated.

Like you have nine by articular muscles in the lower leg, right? That work in unisons. Then you have uniarticular muscles, which for people by uniarticular, basically muscles that cross over two joints that working unisons, hamstrings, quads, rectus, femoris, semitendinosus, gracilis…

I don’t want to give you an anatomy lecture, but basically they work together. And when we start compartmentalizing them, isolating them, trying to make them work alone. It’s impossible. That’s why, if you go into hamstring, the bicep femoris is probably the most muscle that’s ruptured in for hamstring injuries, because they try to isolate that muscle, right? Bicep femoris, from the semitendinosus and the semimembranosus.

John: Gotcha.

Clance: Big major. That’s another epidemic in the, in the football is all these hamstring issues, which are totally avoidable. And then they throw these isolation exercises. That’s clearly not working.

John: Yeah. No, you mentioned like, I remember conversations with you about buzzwords and stability work is that is, is really in that right now. And I remember a few months ago, a video went viral with Derrick Henry. He was doing pushups with his feet elevated on an exercise ball. His hands weren’t even on a stable surface, they were on a band and there were chains over his back.

What the cons to that versus using a stable surface? And Derrick Henry is a freak of nature. I remember watching him at Alabama. He’s always been tracking guys. He’s always been running through guys.

Clance: Listen, man. That is the problem. That is a crux. That’s the crux of the problem. You have these God-given talented guys. He’s a, Derrick Henry is a freak of nature. Okay. Period. So you give these guys these clown exercises, right? And then you have millions and millions and millions and millions of kids who want to be Derrick Henry and think they’re going to be Derrick Henry by doing this stupid shit. That is very upsetting and then you have, so guys like Derrick Henry make the dumbest strength coaches look smart.

John: Yeah. Yeah.

Clance: Not, seriously. It’s not a joke. That’s the problem. That is the problem. And I got god buy that. Don’t get me wrong. I got god by that. I got, I bought into that, those the stability. And so I wasn’t, I didn’t, but I started, I did it was from trial and error.

My guys started to get weak, the freaks of nature. And they’re gonna be, they might not be the, you might not get them to their potential, but they’re usually going to be better than the rest. Yeah. But the guys who need that real work for me, their performance dropped, they got weaker, they got slower, they were getting injured. And it took me about two to three years to say, nah, something’s wrong because I’m collecting data. There was way back in my career and this was before probably guys like Paul Chek, Peter , all that kind of shit.

John: So how do you, how do you collect that data? What do you do to collect that data?

Clance: How you collect that data is just paying attention. Like that’s why I like individual sports like weightlifting and track and field because the numbers don’t lie. You pay attention. What’s going on? Why are certain injuries are popping up in your gym? What are the exercises that you’re doing to potentiate these exercises? Are these guys going back and looking at the data and saying, why are my athletes tearing their ACLs? Why are my athletes rupturing their hamstrings? Why are my athletes carrying the fucking strongest tenant in the human body, which is the Achilles tendon? That’s almost impossible to rupture. It’s not a joke. It’s fucking serious. Like it drives me crazy. So you have to go back to the data and understand…

Sorry. Calm down Clance. Sorry. Calm down.

You have to go back and check the data and to see what’s going on. Cause they’re there. And over the years, I’ve started to trace correlations. I want the biggest correlation is going back to getting, we’re treating ligaments and tendons, which are elastic components. They should be, you got to treat them like elastic bands, nurture that through your training methods. And if anybody’s listening here, that’s the principle.

Muscles are like tensors, right?

John: Exactly.

Clance: They help. They help transfer the energy to mechanical energy and so forth. I don’t want to get complicated. But when you work within those parameters, you’re going to produce healthier, safer, more injury resistant athletes. That’s a fact. Things that happened to Saquon Barkley, you know, Kevin Durant, list goes on, you know.

John: And it’s everybody, right? You’ve mentioned Saquon is supposed to be coming back soon. J. K. Dobbins just tore his ACL as well. This off-season Cam Akers dead, but you see it in a basketball. You’ve seen it in hockey as well.

So there are multiple things going on there, different sports and so-called sports specific work with all these different types of strength coach, you have a hockey strength coach. You have a basketball specific strength coach, a football specific strength coach, but you had the injuries follow a common denominator , right. So what do you say to parents that want to put themselves in, you know, sports specific training or indoor seasons as opposed to strength training and neglecting that key work, especially when they’re, when they’re young?

Clance: See, the thing is I feel it for the parents because the parents don’t know. Unless the parents are actually coming to me and usually have a little bit of background in sports and they have a little better idea. Those are usually the parents of some of the best athletes I’ve had because their parents have some type of background or some type of high level. So they, something’s not making sense for them.

Usually what happens when I, parent of the athlete is they don’t care about the injuries, that they’re normally come to you because they want your athletes, they want their athletes to run faster, be more stronger, and more powerful and so on and so forth. But we, you have to care about the injury. So that’s why we train, utilize and training that manner too. And for me personally, being injured in which ruined my career, which I know I’d be at a world-class, you know, probably of being an Olympian or being a pro football player, it’s always took a special place for me.

So that question is very hard, but the one thing you have to pay attention to as a parent is how are you building your child’s foundation? How do you go about building foundation? How are you about building that foundation? What are you utilizing? You know, what kind of activities? If they’re squatting, okay, how are they squatting? You know, what’s your thoughts on about knees that board over the toes?

Okay. Just hit on a beautiful thing that this single cue or this single cue used by strength coaches, personal trainers, fitness enthusiast, social media influencers, make sure your knees do not go over your toes is probably the most single detrimental cue that’s destroying thousands and thousands of athletes. That single cue based on my research in the last five years.

Because anywhere I start to dig and search for training history for one of my players had nine ACL injuries on his team, nine! On one team, one football team, plus MCL and some hamstring. When he showed me the program and that the execution and so on and so forth, the technical information, same thing. When I researched Kevin Durant’s background because I was watching the game and it would piss me off. I saw him fall down that Raptors playoff game. When he dropped, I searched his background information, common denominator, most athletes, Saquon Barkley, I watch some of his videos, powerful, strong, beautiful-

John: 400 pounds.

Clance: That dude is a monster. I believe in moving load is very important for performance, very important for durability. But the one thing when I saw Saquon’s videos is that his basically knees are not going over his toes. His ankles are pretty much mummified. When you see that there’s no, he’s box squatting like 600 pounds and there’s no movement. The shin is not going over. Like that’s crazy weight. Beautiful athlete. There’s no movement. There’s no flection of the shin going over to toe nor dorsiflexing.

John: And that leaves them in a vulnerable position in game.

Clance: And that leaves them in. Because what happen is the spring, what we’re talking about the Achilles tendon spring is strong in a certain range of motion. Then you asked that spring to habitually to go through its full range of motion that it, that it can, or that it can go to because, but you’re not asking it to go through its full range of motion, which it should, and it can, and it’s accustomed to, you’re taking through full range of motion where you’re, where it’s being training and loaded and so on and so forth.

So what happens is, I don’t want to get technical, but there you’re losing sarcomeres, you’re losing those, that what we call that vital range and that other range gets bit much dried up. So I love to use the elastic band analogy because people couldn’t think. So that full range of motion is destroyed. It distorted. It gets dried up. And then when you call upon it to go through its full excursion, it pops. There’s a beautiful quote by and there’s this book called “Strength and Power in Sport by Komi.

A muscle… Oh, sorry. A muscle may be taken through its full excursion. A muscle, a muscle must be taken through its full excursion or a muscle must, sorry. A must muscle must habitually be taken through his full excursion. So a muscle must have visually be taken through his full excursion of its range of motion or problems may occur. And we’re seeing that those problems right now. You understand?

So the, the joint full range of motion, which we are humanly born with must be trained as many, as much as possible or you’re going to lose its range of motion.

John: And that’s what’s happening. Yeah.

Clance: And that’s what’s happening.

John: I think the dumbest thing you can think of in terms of strength coaches that restrict the knee and don’t allow it to go over the toe. And you’re talking about these guys are trying to talk to us about being sports specific. Now Saquon Barkley going to go up to the linebacker before it gets tackled and say, hold on, don’t tackle me so that my knee doesn’t go over my toe. No. Right. So how was that training you to be sport specific? It’s not. It’s ironic, you know, it doesn’t make any sense.

Clance: You’re a hundred percent correct. That’s why, you know, a lot of times people come into the gym and they say, oh, I can squat 500 pounds, and when you see them squat, they’re squatting quarter range where you’re squatting half range. They’re not squatting rock bottom, right?

And you need to be strong in the rock bottom. If you don’t, if you don’t us, the body’s going to adapt to whatever range of motion is used, that’s how smart it is. It’s going to realize, okay, I don’t need this range because I’m not training to it. I don’t, we’re not loading it. So it doesn’t need to adapt to it. So it’s going to get weaker, right? And that’s what happen. I see this all the time.

John: Yeah. And I think some counter I’ve gotten a lot is, you know, cause there are guys at Cal Strength football that train with some of the similar principles to us, right? And they say, well, if these training principles were, you see that Von Miller was, I didn’t want to talk to you about this in person because I want to save it for this. You said you had some from me here. So a lot of people tell, counter me and say, well, if Von Miller was using full range of motion for an, during a period of time, using power cleans, using the Olympic lifts, why did he still have his ankle injury? What do you say to that? What was going on there? Cause you said you had a theory about him.

Clance: Okay. I don’t think Von Miller was utilizing Cal strength methods for a long period of time.

John: Okay. So you’re saying that the period of time, you’re saying that the, his base and his foundation wasn’t used, wasn’t proper?

Clance: Yeah. I don’t think his foundation was proper and remember these things. I don’t know. Like I know Cal Strength, they know what they’re doing over there and I know they’re, you know, they produce some of the strongest athletes around and they train them to full range of motion. But I don’t believe, correct me if I’m wrong, that Von Miller has been training with Cal Strength for like a full long period, I think it was just a few sessions here. I could be wrong. Because I’m sure Von Miller, I know that guy. I marveled about him because he has such mobility, such flexibility, it’s incredible, he could bend like amazing. And one of the things I noticed he didn’t wrap a lot. Now I’ve seen him wrapping. I’ve seen some, I haven’t even seen him wrapping a lot, like before he was injured. So that could have something to do with it as well. But I don’t believe that he’s been trained on the Cal principles method for a long period of time for that kind of adaptation of the tissues and so on and so forth to set in properly.

John: Yeah. And even before he got injured, I think nine or ten years in the linebacker is crazy. Nobody usually makes it Palestinian. Nobody usually makes it that long. And then you’re seeing other issues.

Clance: Sorry, I didn’t see all the funny they jump on that shit. When you have like hundreds of people who are training with these horrible methods, right? It’s just a lot of times these guys are just so fucking lazy. They don’t want to do the work. Sorry. And you know, they just find an easy way or they just fucking dumb. Like you tell me what it is. Like, you know, the anatomy books is right there. Like open an anatomy book, read an anatomy book, understand how ligaments, tendons, and fascia and muscles work. Like come on, stop being like a freaking social media strength coach and do the research for yourself. And we can have an intelligent conversation. Fucking clowns. Sorry. It just drives me. It’s ridiculous.

John: Do you think that-

Clance: I knew John was going to get me going.

John: And then you see is some guys talk about over-training. This principle of overtraining. Do you find athletes aren’t… You think athletes are neglecting the adaptation process?

Clance: Yes. Cause when you, you have to get into, to grow, you have to be uncomfortable and overtraining is a process of growing.

John: So you think a lot of folks are convincing themselves that instead of working harder, they’re working smarter?

Clance: I agree. I see a lot, a lot, right? You have to, I’m not saying, hey, everybody needs rest. You have to rest. There has to be. But I don’t want, they’re trying to blame the whole injury on overtraining. Nah, that’s a cop out. It’s the training methods. It’s the stability training, core training. The number one statement of making sure my knees don’t go over my toes is a direct correlation. Direct correlation is not even my opinion, it’s a fact of Achilles tendon, ACL and hamstring issues. Period. Lower back as well, monster issues. So that’s what it is. It’s not these athletes being fatigued and training too hard and are overtraining. It’s improper training methods.

John: So I guess let’s kind of wrap it up. Do you have confidence in the four-million-dollar study that the NFL has put in? Do you think that’s going to find issues like knees going over the toe? Do you think there’s enough-

Clance: And before I want to step back and it’s not just like knees going over a toe and it’s not just that, but it’s also a rate of force, like how training to full range of motion and explosiveness. So, you know, squats are great, but they’re slow. High-speed games like football, basketball that you need to be explosive. You need to be as quick as possible.

That’s why I love Olympic weightlifting for these athletes because you have to load that joint to full range of motion, fast and explosive and under load. You understand what I’m saying? So that shouldn’t flex all the way over to toes, knees bent, hamstrings touching the calves, that has to be done fast. That’s why catching the clean, catching a snatch with load over your head is so important for a lot of these athletes and for injury prevention and that’s being neglected.

So these slow exercises along with these short range of motion exercises is also a major factor in the communication problems that you have to, the athlete has to be able to relax and contract at the last minute. You know? So if you go back to a lot of these hamstring injuries, they usually happen at what we call the you know, the stance phase. So when you stand up, you know, you’re moving fast, but you have to contract fast, hitting the ground. That’s where it usually tears because we doing too much of these slow exercises, too short range of motion, right?

I just had to go back there. So just not, there has to be explosive exercises to full range of motion as well, to make sure it’s, you’re working within that injury prevention or a healthier athlete. So it’s not just like power cleans, power snatches. That’s also on that your mount or high squats, quarter squats, you work the range of motion, but you got to work at, you stretch the tissue, but you got to stretch the tissue explosively as well. So there’s a process.

John: And you got to do it fast?

Clance: And you gotta do it fast.

John: So do you notice a big difference, series of rate of force development, meters per second, and how fast the bar’s moving. Do you notice a huge, what do you notice in a guy who can move the bar faster? How does that look? A guy who can move the bar fast and take very short breaks between sets. What does that translate to in the field? What does that football player, what does Wayne Moore look like here and how does that transfer to the field?

Clance: Because you’re, and that’s why we, we have, you know, our volume days, pushing the pace. That’s the reason is that we’re trying to mimic or make them train as hard as here, as heavy as here, because that helps with fatigue resistance. Fatigue resistance to specific muscles, joints, and so on and so forth. They’re used to loading fast and they’re used of loading loads anywhere from 70%, 75% and above with minimal rest. That you’re where you’re literally building athletes that way, right?

So that’s why technique is important to full range, load the full range, alright? Then you load the full range as fast as possible. Making sense?

John: And that athlete should be able to run it down your throat, three downs a football and dry.

All day, baby. All day. All day. All day.

John: And you said, I’ll go back to my earlier question, but I want to wrap it up with this because it’s kind of all encompassing and a little forward looking. Do you think there needs to be a bit more of a revolving door between the strength community and the medical community? You see, I talked to one of our coaches here Alan Warner and he wants to get to the point where he’s in, he’s finishing medical school and prescribing this kind of stuff.

Do you think there needs to be more of a revolving door between the strength community and the medical field to really take care of these athletes?

Clance: Because right now, back in my day, there was this beautiful conference that they used to have. It used to be called Swiss Society, weightlifting and injury specialist symposium. That was one of the best things that ever happened, or that one of the best symposiums I used to go to because it was all about bridging the gap between strength coaches, chiropractors, sports scientists, and so on and so forth. And there has to be, and for me, it’s always been a personal thing of mine to build relationships with therapists, doctors, and so on and so forth.

I’ve done the, I do that, I took it on my own to do that because, hey, you can get rid of the, you can weed out the doctors or who don’t understand the strength and conditioning. And plus I learn, you know, we learn how to communicate so we can better take care of the athlete.

So, yeah, man, there’s a big gap, you have therapists trying to train or tell these athletes how to train and what exercise. And a lot of times these teams, these strength coaches are physiotherapists that know nothing about strength and conditioning. You haven’t doing all these isometric wall squats and so on and so forth, which is mummifying the joint, shorten their tissues and so on and so forth. And that’s the biggest problem. You know, that is a major problem.

And the thing is that when you, the reason I keep hammering training to full range of motion is so important because you’re losing tissue, you’re actually losing tissue. You’re losing perfective tissue that needs to be nurtured and harness. You were actually, there’s a thing called a wrapping effect, right? And that wrapping effect is only nurtured when the hamstring and the calves touch. That’s actually a protective mechanism that protects your knee.

That’s Hartman. What’s his name? Hartman in 1993. You know that there’s a study there. It tells you it’s so important for that. But if you don’t, if you’re not training anybody, if you’re just sitting in a lab or you’re just like, you’re not, you don’t see it take effect. But for me, this is my lab. I see it taking effect every day. The athletes with the healthier joints are the athletes who touch their hamstrings to their calves. Why? Because of the wrapping effect.

We had lady come in here the other day, train with us for off-season, volleyball player had jumper’s knee pretty much most of her career. Guess what? Jumper knees gone. I had experienced athletes who trained with me for a while left, started having knee pains came back. They start pushing their knees over their toes. Simple thing like that knee pain is gone.

I’m not saying there’s no, there’s a difference between knee pain and there’s a difference between, you know, creating an environment where you’re going to actually rupture your ACL, tear your MCL, rupture, your Achilles, any major, major difference. Everybody gets a little dinged up here and there and so on and so forth.

Ease off the work and then you come back at it. But the key thing is why that’s one of the biggest principles in our training is to train to full range of motion. It’s an injury prevention mechanism to help the athletes have a long, healthy, nurturing career. And too many careers are being cut short because of misinformation. Social media likes-

John: Yeah. Misinformation. I think some people, instead of being open-minded, they just kind of go in with a thesis and a conclusion and they just like a horse with blinders on neglecting anything else that doesn’t fit into that narrative. It doesn’t fit into the facts that they want to support their point. So I think if people just looked at the data objectively wouldn’t need four or five million dollars study to be done.

Clance: Yow, give me that four or five million dollars, I guarantee you, I would clear up the what’s going on in NFL right now.

But the thing is it, the thing is it starts before the NFL, right? It starts, it’s a slow thing like what I was saying. It starts in high school. So they actually have to go back to high schools because these things don’t wear their ugly heads. Actually, we’re starting to see them. Now, these things don’t wear their ugly heads like Achilles tendon tears and so on and so forth until like six, eight years down, right?

Here’s statistics that’s going to blow your mind. In the last 10 years, there has been a 400% increase in youth injuries. 400% from elbow and shoulders. Now check this out. In the last 10 years, there was a 500% increase in ACL tears. Guess the ages.

John: 18?

Clance: From 16, from 6 to 18 years old. 6 years old to 18. There’s a 500% increase in ACL tears and elbow and shoulder injuries. We’re doing something wrong.

John: Yeah. Definitely something to think about. Thank you for your time. That’s all we got today.

Clance: Alright.

John: It’s been a pleasure.

Clance: My pleasure.

John: I guess we’ll call this part two.

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